Doctor Who: Dalek

A powerful billionaire’s collection of alien artefacts becomes a problem when he acquires the crowning glory – a real, live alien. Unfortunately for him, the alien is a Dalek.

Cast

Christopher Ecclestone as the Doctor
Billie Piper as Rose Tyler
Steven Beckingham as Polkowski
Corey Johnson as Henry van Statten
Anna-Louise Plowman as Goddard
Bruno Langley as Adam
Nigel Whitmey as Simmons
John Schwab as Bywater
Jana Carpenter as De Maggio
Joe Montana as Commander
Barnaby Edwards operated the Dalek, and Nicholas Briggs was the Dalek’s voice

Written by Robert Shearman

Directed by Joe Ahearne

Daleks created by Terry Nation

Original Airdate

Originally broadcast on BBC One in the United Kingdom on the 30th of April 2005

Synopsis

In an underground facility in Utah, a billionaire collects alien artefacts which have fallen to Earth. A harmless enough pasttime, until he gets hold of a Dalek.

High Point

The Dalek. No question about that. More intelligent, better-looking and undeniably more dangerous than before. Fortunately for the Earth there was only one of them, as not only is it capable of extreme violence, it’s also capable of deception, self-doubt and philosophical discourse.

Low Point

‘Elevate’. It might have been scarier if the Dalek didn’t talk about everything before doing it for the first time.

The Review

How original can a story about a Dalek be? Quite a bit, as this episode shows. Not only do we see some very nice technical upgrades to the Dalek, we also see some things done with the Dalek which have not been done before. They’re far from mindless (yet very intelligent) killing machines now. Five out of six.

The effects were everything they wanted to do with the Daleks in the old series but couldn’t. In a few places you could see where they’d changed over to a CGI Dalek, but it was close enough that it wasn’t really an issue. The only point where the effects jump out as being insufficient was right near the end in the last Dalek scene. Five out of six.

As for the story, it was an excellent reintroduction to the Daleks. Some nods to the backstory of both the original series and the new one were slipped in rather nicely, everything fitted together rather well, and it was generally a lot of fun with a generous helping of tension, running around and cries of ‘exterminate!’, even if the ‘oh no Rose is dead’ element was used again. It could, however, have benefited from an extra quarter of an hour or so, which is not the writer’s fault of course – it’s a good vision constrained by the limits of the series’ format. Five out of six.

The acting came up well from all concerned. In the case of one character, this is particularly good. It’s fortunate that the new companion is played by someone who appears fairly capable. Five out of six – you’re not going to see better in Doctor Who in this universe.

Emotional response is a tricky one. Daleks aren’t hide-behind-the-sofa scary these days, but this Dalek is extremely impressive. Rose’s reaction to it and the Doctor’s interaction with it certainly deliver some emotional impact, but you kind of expect that because it’s the Daleks, it should be really really scary. Because of that I can only give this four out of six – your opinions may vary.

Can you ask more of the production? Well, yes, you could, but you’re not going to get it. Five out of six.

Overall therefore, despite not maxing out any of the other scores, you come away so thoroughly entertained that it just has to have six out of six.

And so we’re left with a grand total of thirty-five out of forty-two.

40 replies on “Doctor Who: Dalek”

  1. cb says:

    So when…
    …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

    -cb

    • joe__gee says:

      Re: So when…

      …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

      -cb

      http://www.bbcamerica.com. Right now, it doesn’t look like they’ll be carrying the new Doctor Who.

      -Joe

      • torentfiend says:

        Re: So when…who cares?

        …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

        -cb

        http://www.bbcamerica.com. Right now, it doesn’t look like they’ll be carrying the new Doctor Who.

        -Joe

        Will I get banned for these words? Bit Torrent.
        The world is my tivo, I shall not want…
        For HD versions of every episode of this lovely
        series at about 350M per episode.

        • Alexius says:

          Re: So when…who cares?

          …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

          -cb

          http://www.bbcamerica.com. Right now, it doesn’t look like they’ll be carrying the new Doctor Who.

          -Joe

          Will I get banned for these words? Bit Torrent.
          The world is my tivo, I shall not want…
          For HD versions of every episode of this lovely
          series at about 350M per episode.

          That’s How I Watch It.

          • joe__gee says:

            Re: So when…who cares?

            …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

            -cb

            http://www.bbcamerica.com. Right now, it doesn’t look like they’ll be carrying the new Doctor Who.

            -Joe

            Will I get banned for these words? Bit Torrent.
            The world is my tivo, I shall not want…
            For HD versions of every episode of this lovely
            series at about 350M per episode.

            That’s How I Watch It.

            Ditto.

            • J_W_W says:

              Re: So when…who cares?

              …is BBC America going to carry the new series? I just got this channel and couldn’t find the show in the listings.

              -cb

              http://www.bbcamerica.com. Right now, it doesn’t look like they’ll be carrying the new Doctor Who.

              -Joe

              Will I get banned for these words? Bit Torrent.
              The world is my tivo, I shall not want…
              For HD versions of every episode of this lovely
              series at about 350M per episode.

              That’s How I Watch It.

              Ditto.

              Same here. I just caught up to this episode this week.

              • joe__gee says:

                Re: So when…who cares?

                Same here. I just caught up to this episode this week.

                I love the hell out of this show. I suspect BBC America, Sci Fi, USA, or even syndication would have a hit show on their hands if someone in the States had the brains to show the thing … Since they don’t, and I suspect the DVDs will be region 2 only, I don’t feel very damned guilty downloading these.

                I usually have them a few hours after BBC1 shows them, as soon as the torrents go up. Watching Doctor Who has (again) become a Sunday morning ritual for me. Way back when, when Tom Baker manned the TARDIS, my local PBS affiliate would start off every Sunday morning with the multi-episode condensed verion of Doctor Who (all three or four episodes edited together.) I’d watch the Doctor, drink my morning coffee, and get ready for the rest of the day.

                It’s like 1980 all over again, minus the pimples, the bully next door, and my Mom crocheting on the couch. :)

                -Joe

                • pdavis says:

                  Re: So when…who cares?
                  Back in the 80s it came on my local PBS Saturday nights at 9:00. I still have fond memories of ending the night with a 90 minute story arc of DW. Now we get the new episodes off the news groups and watch them the following Saturday night along with an old episode.

  2. babasyzygy says:

    War in Heaven?
    This episode was great. I thought that the Dalek was every bit as scary as any
    previous Dalek – just tell me you didn’t feel the horror as Rose set the Dalek free!

    I have not yet worked my way up to The Ancestor Cell. Could somebody who knows the
    expanded universe material comment on
    whether what they’ve told us about the Time War conforms to what happened
    in the books, regarding the “War in Heaven?” Did that have millions of Dalek
    ships facing millions of Time Lord TARDISes? It’s interesting, because in the
    TV series the defenses of Gallifrey have always seemed to be mostly be left to
    the single-point-of-failure transduction barrier.

    Is it possible that we’ll ever see the Faction Paradox?

    I was a big fan of Who in the 80s, and then kind of forgot about it for 15
    years. It’s great having so much material (primarily books and the Big Finish audio
    dramas
    ) to assimilate now that actually seems to have some bearing on
    the canon.

    • fliptw says:

      Re: War in Heaven?

      This episode was great. I thought that the Dalek was every bit as scary as any
      previous Dalek – just tell me you didn’t feel the horror as Rose set the Dalek free!

      I have not yet worked my way up to The Ancestor Cell. Could somebody who knows the
      expanded universe material comment on
      whether what they’ve told us about the Time War conforms to what happened
      in the books, regarding the “War in Heaven?” Did that have millions of Dalek
      ships facing millions of Time Lord TARDISes? It’s interesting, because in the
      TV series the defenses of Gallifrey have always seemed to be mostly be left to
      the single-point-of-failure transduction barrier.

      Is it possible that we’ll ever see the Faction Paradox?

      I was a big fan of Who in the 80s, and then kind of forgot about it for 15
      years. It’s great having so much material (primarily books and the Big Finish audio
      dramas
      ) to assimilate now that actually seems to have some bearing on
      the canon.

      The best way to describe the “Time War” with resorting to spoilers.

      Lets just say that a slightly insane Time Lord President dumps some bad stuff into the Time/Space vortex.

    • obiwan says:

      Re: War in Heaven?

      This episode was great. I thought that the Dalek was every bit as scary as any
      previous Dalek – just tell me you didn’t feel the horror as Rose set the Dalek free!

      I didn’t get that kind of emotional response. It looked very much like an oversized tin salt shaker with a plunger. I guess since I’ve not watched the older series (actually I have, when I was little, but I remember nothing except the title and the phone box) I don’t really conjure up images of scariness out of a rolling trashcan. It was an interesting episode, but it wasn’t scary for me (unlike Aliens of London, which was creepy and the tense moments are really tense). I guess there’s something gruesome about being ripped apart by a claw rather than being zapped by a cheesy effect ray gun or being attacked by a plunger. But that’s just me, and I’m only commenting on it as someone not familiar with the mythos.

      • Alexius says:

        Re: War in Heaven?

        This episode was great. I thought that the Dalek was every bit as scary as any
        previous Dalek – just tell me you didn’t feel the horror as Rose set the Dalek free!

        I didn’t get that kind of emotional response.

        I Thought That Would Be My Response, But I Found Some Older Episodes On-line, And There’s Something About Their Deceptive, Devious Nature That Freaked The Hell Out Of Me, Much More Than A Salt Shaker With A Plunger Should Have. They Made The Borg Look Like Weak Rip-Offs.

        I’d Recommend Destiny Of The Daleks, Thats The One That Gave Me The Heebiejeebies.

        • mbourgon says:

          Re: War in Heaven?

          They Made The Borg Look Like Weak Rip-Offs.

          Actually, that’d be the Cybermen. For some reason I hadn’t figured that out years and years ago, but The Borg are just a rip off of the Cybermen. Remove emotion, run by computers, cybernetic implants, etc, etc. Don’t know why I never saw it before.

          • Alexius says:

            Re: War in Heaven?

            They Made The Borg Look Like Weak Rip-Offs.

            Actually, that’d be the Cybermen. For some reason I hadn’t figured that out years and years ago, but The Borg are just a rip off of the Cybermen. Remove emotion, run by computers, cybernetic implants, etc, etc. Don’t know why I never saw it before.

            See, I Just Got Into Doctor Who With This New Series, And Am Downloading The Old Stuff. My Only Exposure To The Cybermen Are The Few That Were In ‘The Five Doctors’. I’ll Have To Start Tracking Them Down, Next.

            • Eldhrin says:

              Re: War in Heaven?

              They Made The Borg Look Like Weak Rip-Offs.

              Actually, that’d be the Cybermen. For some reason I hadn’t figured that out
              years and years ago, but The Borg are just a rip off of the Cybermen. Remove
              emotion, run by computers, cybernetic implants, etc, etc. Don’t know why I
              never saw it before.

              See, I Just Got Into Doctor Who With This New Series, And Am Downloading
              The Old Stuff. My Only Exposure To The Cybermen Are The Few That Were In
              ‘The Five Doctors’. I’ll Have To Start Tracking Them Down, Next.

              I’d recommend Earthshock as a good Cybermen story. It’s available on DVD
              (at least on region 2), and it’s the point where the Cybermen returned after
              something of an absence, redesigned and with much more comprehensible
              voices. The early Cybermen (try Tomb of the Cybermen, a Second Doctor
              story also on DVD) had high-pitched voices I find quite hard to understand,
              and I often end up watching that one with the subtitles on. However, their
              stated intent in that story is to turn the Doctor and the hapless humans with
              him into Cybermen. Very Borg-like – they dropped that from later Cybermen
              episodes, at that point they just wanted to conquer the Universe. Not quite as
              single-minded as the Daleks and also not as violently xenophobic, but still
              you wouldn’t want to meet one, ever.

              The thing the Borg had that made them more dangerous than the Cybermen
              is the collective consciousness. The Borg disseminate information much
              faster. You can’t take out one of their scouts and hope they didn’t report
              back, because it’s almost certain that they reported everything the moment
              they saw it. I think that’s pretty scary.

              Although since the Borg turned up in Star Trek and not in Doctor Who, they
              never did that much damage – the Daleks had more overall effect I think.

  3. joe__gee says:

    I loved this episode …
    I can only minorly fault it.

    I was shocked and pleased by the episode’s resolution, and I find the new Doctor’s rather raw emotions to be refreshing. This Doctor *tries* to be aloof, but often as not he fails. That’s excellent. Tears? Rage? Hatred? Wonderful. :)

    My one hesitiation about this episode is my growing trepidation regarding the Doctor’s relationship with Rose. Its platonic nature is questioned too much, and it’s denied too vigorously. I suspect we’re being set up for an interspecies romance, and that’s just *not* Doctor Who, although perhaps the writers plan on bringing back the Time Lords?

    Still. Damnit. No. As much as I love this series, especially the new series, that’s wrong. It’s practically taboo. I guess there’s no reason why the series writers *couldn’t* add romance to the Doctor, but to my knowledge (not having read any of the books or listened to the audio programs) it’s just not in keeping with the Doctor’s character.

    -Joe

    • FarmerBob says:

      Re: I loved this episode …
      Spoilerfont for complete conjecture.

      Did I really hear that the Dalek extrapolated the Doctor’s DNA from Rose?

      I am under the impression that there was some sort of past relationship between the Doctor and Rose’s mom. Notice how he never speaks to her, and never looks her in the eye past that one scene in the beginning. I think the Doctor may have found Rose and let her tag along for more reason than just chance.

      • obiwan says:

        Re: I loved this episode …

        Spoilerfont for complete conjecture.

        Did I really hear that the Dalek extrapolated the Doctor’s DNA from Rose?

        I am under the impression that there was some sort of past relationship between the Doctor and Rose’s mom. Notice how he never speaks to her, and never looks her in the eye past that one scene in the beginning. I think the Doctor may have found Rose and let her tag along for more reason than just chance.

        Answer in black too :)
        Unlikely, since Rose’s mom didn’t know who The Doctor was. Perhaps in his previously incarnations… but that seems so unlikely. Not like The Doctor at all.

        • FarmerBob says:

          Re: I loved this episode …

          Spoilerfont for complete conjecture.

          Did I really hear that the Dalek extrapolated the Doctor’s DNA from Rose?

          I am under the impression that there was some sort of past relationship between the Doctor and Rose’s mom. Notice how he never speaks to her, and never looks her in the eye past that one scene in the beginning. I think the Doctor may have found Rose and let her tag along for more reason than just chance.

          Answer in black too :)
          Unlikely, since Rose’s mom didn’t know who The Doctor was. Perhaps in his previously incarnations… but that seems so unlikely. Not like The Doctor at all.

          Then why doesn’t he speak to her? It can’t be just because he doesn’t want to talk to her about what he is doing with Rose.

      • AceCaseOR says:

        Re: I loved this episode …

        Spoilerfont for complete conjecture.

        Did I really hear that the Dalek extrapolated the Doctor’s DNA from Rose?

        Spoilerfonted to respect those who haven’t seen it yet.

        I got the impression that he had simply extrapolated the DNA from a time traveller, in this case referring to Rose. We’ve already covered that the TARDIS messed with her brain in a beneficial manner by allowing her to understand languages that are not her primary language, perhaps the TARDIS might have made a few other effects as well. (As it is, I remember reading somewhere that Time Lords are sterile, though that source might be non-canon).

        • babasyzygy says:

          Re: I loved this episode …
          Time Lords can’t be sterile (in the sense of being completely unable to
          reproduce): the very first episodes of Doctor Who had the Doctor travelling
          with his granddaughter Susan.

          • Cymor says:

            Re: I loved this episode …

            Time Lords can’t be sterile (in the sense of being completely unable to
            reproduce): the very first episodes of Doctor Who had the Doctor travelling
            with his granddaughter Susan.

            On of the old books (that’s now on the BBC website) tells that all the Time Lords from the Doctor’s time are genetically created. Susan is from the Doctor’s past. She believed that he was her grandfather.

  4. bertneef says:

    And another mention of “bad wolf”
    I wonder if it has a meaning or if the writers are just tossing us a red herring.

    • dubbayoo42 says:

      Re: And another mention of “bad wolf”

      I wonder if it has a meaning or if the writers are just tossing us a red herring.

      It took a very, very long time for the title of episode 12 to be released (up until last week, you could easily get the title of any upcoming episode, except 12). The title was recently released, and the episode will be called “Bad Wolf”… so yes there will be a payoff. On Sunday, Outpost Gallifrey had an online chat with Rob Shearman who wrote “Dalek” (or more properly, adapted “Dalek” from his Big Finish radio play “Jubilee”) and he also mentions there will be a payoff to the Bad Wolf thread. Every story thus far (save “Rose”) has a Bad Wolf reference of some sort (the Moxx of Valhoon (sp?) speaks of it in episode 2, the Welsh assistant girl speaks of it in episode 3, it’s spraypainted on the TARDIS in the AoL/WW3 stories, and of course it’s Van Statten’s helicopter’s name in episode 6)… they’re not going to do something that blatant then not pay it off… this isn’t STTNG after all. :)

      I for one enjoy having this thread going on, it adds a sense of mystery to the show, not unlike the Fenric threads weaved in the last few years of the original series (and paid off in “Curse of Fenric” of course).

      • Alexius says:

        Re: And another mention of “bad wolf”

        I wonder if it has a meaning or if the writers are just tossing us a red herring.

        It took a very, very long time for the title of episode 12 to be released (up until last week, you could easily get the title of any upcoming episode, except 12). The title was recently released, and the episode will be called “Bad Wolf”… so yes there will be a payoff. On Sunday, Outpost Gallifrey had an online chat with Rob Shearman who wrote “Dalek” (or more properly, adapted “Dalek” from his Big Finish radio play “Jubilee”) and he also mentions there will be a payoff to the Bad Wolf thread. Every story thus far (save “Rose”) has a Bad Wolf reference of some sort (the Moxx of Valhoon (sp?) speaks of it in episode 2, the Welsh assistant girl speaks of it in episode 3, it’s spraypainted on the TARDIS in the AoL/WW3 stories, and of course it’s Van Statten’s helicopter’s name in episode 6)… they’re not going to do something that blatant then not pay it off… this isn’t STTNG after all. :)

        I for one enjoy having this thread going on, it adds a sense of mystery to the show, not unlike the Fenric threads weaved in the last few years of the original series (and paid off in “Curse of Fenric” of course).

        Okay, I’ve Totally Missed This. I Saw The Spraypaint, But That’s All I Noticed. Anyone Care To Fill Me In?

        • GrimSean says:

          Re: And another mention of “bad wolf”

          Okay, I’ve Totally Missed This. I Saw The Spraypaint, But That’s All I Noticed. Anyone Care To Fill Me In?

          Same here. I’ve been watching, and I have noticed the “Bad Wolf” stuff, but I have no idea what it’s referencing. Admittedly, this is the first Who I’ve watched regularly in 20 years, so the problem could simply be that. Still, inquiring minds want to know!

          • max_quordlepleen says:

            Re: And another mention of “bad wolf”

            Dubbayou42 pretty much covered everything we know for sure. The
            phrases “Bad Wolf”, “Bad Wolf Scenario”, have been used seemingly in
            conjunction with The Doctor in each episode after the first.

            What I am not sure of, is whether the “Bad Wolf” is The Doctor, or
            someone else. In Ep 3 the medium says to Rose, “You’ve seen the Big Bad
            Wolf”, which leads to speculation that The Doctor is the “Bad Wolf”. On the
            other hand, “Who’s” afraid of The Big Bad Wolf?

            I’ve seen lots of speculation in other fora, but nothing really firm more
            than that.

            • PaulBlake says:

              Bad Wolf stuff…

              Dubbayou42 pretty much covered everything we know for sure. The
              phrases “Bad Wolf”, “Bad Wolf Scenario”, have been used seemingly in
              conjunction with The Doctor in each episode after the first.

              What I am not sure of, is whether the “Bad Wolf” is The Doctor, or
              someone else. In Ep 3 the medium says to Rose, “You’ve seen the Big Bad
              Wolf”, which leads to speculation that The Doctor is the “Bad Wolf”. On the
              other hand, “Who’s” afraid of The Big Bad Wolf?

              I’ve seen lots of speculation in other fora, but nothing really firm more
              than that.

              The full list of references so far:

              Supposedly, the Nestine Conciousness mouths the words “Bad Wolf” while talking to the Doctor in Rose.

              The Moxx of Balhoon says “This is a Bad Wolf Scenario,” to the Face of Boe in The End of the World.

              Gwyneth sees “the big bad wolf” in Rose’s mind and recoils in terror in The Unquiet Dead.

              A kid sprays the words “Bad Wolf” on the side of the TARDIS in Aliens of London.

              One of the reporters is named Mal Loup in World War Three. Mal Loup is French for bad wolf.

              Henry VanStatten’s helicopter is called “Bad Wolf-1” in Dalek.

              **BONUS REFERENCES**: http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk references the final minutes of WW3, from Mickey’s point of view. He uses the words “big bad wolf.” The site is a BBC “viral advertising” site, made to look like a standard amatuer conspiracy site, but taking place in the DW universe, and is probably canon.

              BBC has registered http://www.badwolf.co.uk. Their current/future intentions with it are, as yet, unclear.

              And there is the title of episode 12.

              • codejnki says:

                Re: Bad Wolf stuff…

                Dubbayou42 pretty much covered everything we know for sure. The
                phrases “Bad Wolf”, “Bad Wolf Scenario”, have been used seemingly in
                conjunction with The Doctor in each episode after the first.

                What I am not sure of, is whether the “Bad Wolf” is The Doctor, or
                someone else. In Ep 3 the medium says to Rose, “You’ve seen the Big Bad
                Wolf”, which leads to speculation that The Doctor is the “Bad Wolf”. On the
                other hand, “Who’s” afraid of The Big Bad Wolf?

                I’ve seen lots of speculation in other fora, but nothing really firm more
                than that.

                The full list of references so far:

                Supposedly, the Nestine Conciousness mouths the words “Bad Wolf” while talking to the Doctor in Rose.

                The Moxx of Balhoon says “This is a Bad Wolf Scenario,” to the Face of Boe in The End of the World.

                Gwyneth sees “the big bad wolf” in Rose’s mind and recoils in terror in The Unquiet Dead.

                A kid sprays the words “Bad Wolf” on the side of the TARDIS in Aliens of London.

                One of the reporters is named Mal Loup in World War Three. Mal Loup is French for bad wolf.

                Henry VanStatten’s helicopter is called “Bad Wolf-1” in Dalek.

                **BONUS REFERENCES**: http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk references the final minutes of WW3, from Mickey’s point of view. He uses the words “big bad wolf.” The site is a BBC “viral advertising” site, made to look like a standard amatuer conspiracy site, but taking place in the DW universe, and is probably canon.

                BBC has registered http://www.badwolf.co.uk. Their current/future intentions with it are, as yet, unclear.

                And there is the title of episode 12.

                If you visit the BBC Doctor Who website and click on the right hand bottom corner you get “Bad Wolf” repeated over and over and over. Also if you sit there long enough to watch the cycle you get a picture of someone who looks like Davros. But I could be mistaken

                Could this be something specific to the story line or is it just something to drive us all nuts waiting for an answer.

                • max_quordlepleen says:

                  Re: Bad Wolf stuff…

                  Also if you sit there long enough to watch the cycle you get a picture of
                  someone who looks like Davros.

                  I think that is “The Editor” from next week’s episode.

                  • joe__gee says:

                    Re: Bad Wolf stuff…

                    Also if you sit there long enough to watch the cycle you get a picture of
                    someone who looks like Davros.

                    I think that is “The Editor” from next week’s episode.

                    Which I think looks to be very Matrix-like. :)

                    -Joe

              • y42 says:

                Re: Bad Wolf stuff…

                One of the reporters is named Mal Loup in World War Three. Mal Loup is French for bad wolf.

                It’s… bad French for “Bad Wolf”… sounds like what you’d get out of a machine translation, or direct dictionary referencing (same diff).

  5. marky says:

    Time War
    To reply to an earlier comment on this page; in the new issue of the Doctor Who Magazine, head writer Russell T. Davies specifies that the Time War in the new series is completely different to the one in the BBC Eighth Doctor range of novels. In fact, they would not be allowed to do this because the BBC is a public service broadcaster, they cannot make it so you have to buy their products to understand what you see on the screen.

    I thought the Dalek episode quite disappointing. It’s been ages since the Daleks were menacing, they never changed their design for years like they did with the Cybermen, and they basically became screaming henchmen for Davros. They finally addressed most of things that made them crap, gave them their calculating side back , actually made them look ruthless for the first time in years. I don’t know how to do that black font spoiler thing, but….. The Dalek Was Defeated Because A Girl Touched It! How rubbish is that? Since when is your value system and morals stored in your DNA? What a poncy, cop-out Star Trek ending. Just like Star Trek, they build up a really menacing alien threat, then weaken it with rubbish about emotions and end up reasoning with it. The whole point of the Daleks was always that you couldn’t reason with them. They’re an allegory for the Nazis.

    My guess is the Bad Wolf is the Master.

    • max_quordlepleen says:

      Re: Time War

      The Dalek Was Defeated Because A Girl Touched It! How rubbish is that? Since
      when is your value system and morals stored in your DNA? What a poncy,
      cop-out Star Trek ending.

      Well, I agree about the execution – it was the one thing in this episode
      that I found really jarring, even if they had taken a bit more time with it, my
      suspension of disbelief would have been aided.

      However, to be
      completely fair, in the 1967 story “Evil of the Daleks”, a similar plot device
      was used to inject the “Human Factor” into the Daleks. So there is some
      precedent both for pseudo-scientific mysticism as a plot device, as well as
      the creation of an “emotioal” Dalek.

    • max_quordlepleen says:

      Re: Time War

      The Dalek Was Defeated Because A Girl Touched It! How rubbish is that? Since
      when is your value system and morals stored in your DNA? What a poncy,
      cop-out Star Trek ending.

      Well, I agree about the execution – it was the one thing in this episode
      that I found really jarring, even if they had taken a bit more time with it, my
      suspension of disbelief would have been aided.

      However, to be
      completely fair, in the 1967 story “Evil of the Daleks”, a similar plot device
      was used to inject the “Human Factor” into the Daleks. So there is some
      precedent both for pseudo-scientific mysticism as a plot device, as well as
      the creation of an “emotioal” Dalek.

    • joe__gee says:

      Re: Time War

      The Dalek Was Defeated Because A Girl Touched It! How rubbish is that? Since when is your value system and morals stored in your DNA? What a poncy, cop-out Star Trek ending. Just like Star Trek, they build up a really menacing alien threat, then weaken it with rubbish about emotions and end up reasoning with it. The whole point of the Daleks was always that you couldn’t reason with them. They’re an allegory for the Nazis.

      Spoilerish thingie: Remember, Daleks are genetically engineered to have no emotions other than those that Davros deemed useful: anger, hatred, etc … Add human emotions to the mix, fear, love, happiness, and the Dalek is compromised. It was dying and regenerated itself using Rose’s DNA as a template. It didn’t inherit her personality, but it did inherit human neurochemistry and all of those other emotions that Davros has edited out. I could see how those emotions would compromise a Dalek.

      This reminded me of Hugh, the Borg. Wait a second, I just proved your point. :)

      -Joe

  6. Vulch says:

    If only…

    I wish they hadn’t shown the Dalek in the “Next week” teaser and called the episode something like “Last of his Race” instead.

    Can you imagine the impact of the scene where the Doctor goes in to the dark Metaltron cage and introduces himself to the small blue light if you didn’t know what was waiting for him? I’d have been straight over the back of the sofa with the first flash of the voice lamps.

    • KILNA says:

      Re: If only…

      I wish they hadn’t shown the Dalek in the “Next week” teaser and called the episode something like “Last of his Race” instead.

      Can you imagine the impact of the scene where the Doctor goes in to the dark Metaltron cage and introduces himself to the small blue light if you didn’t know what was waiting for him? I’d have been straight over the back of the sofa with the first flash of the voice lamps.

      I *hate* it when the writers obviously want to build up to a beautiful reveal, and then whatever network is involved has to blow it in the preview for next week or the title of the episode. If “The Empire Strikes Back” was a TV production on the networks nowadays, it would have been named “Darth is Luke’s Father”.

    • PaulBlake says:

      Re: If only…

      I wish they hadn’t shown the Dalek in the “Next week” teaser and called the episode something like “Last of his Race” instead.

      Can you imagine the impact of the scene where the Doctor goes in to the dark Metaltron cage and introduces himself to the small blue light if you didn’t know what was waiting for him? I’d have been straight over the back of the sofa with the first flash of the voice lamps.

      Of course, they’d have to have renamed the episode, too. Probably should have called it Mysterious Menacing Metaltron.

      • y42 says:

        Re: If only…

        I wish they hadn’t shown the Dalek in the “Next week” teaser and called the episode something like “Last of his Race” instead.

        Can you imagine the impact of the scene where the Doctor goes in to the dark Metaltron cage and introduces himself to the small blue light if you didn’t know what was waiting for him? I’d have been straight over the back of the sofa with the first flash of the voice lamps.

        Or… “last of his race”…

        Of course, they’d have to have renamed the episode, too. Probably should have called it Mysterious Menacing Metaltron.

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