Buffy Discussion – “Get It Done”

More spoilerish random thoughts below.

Some things I loved:

  • The thing Spike needed.
  • Spike and Anya early on.
  • Why it’s not enough.
  • The first, and the last.
  • Discussin who contributes what.

10 replies on “Buffy Discussion – “Get It Done””

  1. davatar2 says:

    good ep
    So it’s confirmed that buffy is part demon. Does this put spike back in the game again?

  2. UncleJam says:

    Lame, lame, lame…
    …UNTIL Buffy went through the portal.

    I’ve been waiting seven years to see something about the origins of the Slayer. I really thought they were going to do more with it in Season 5, but then, like so many other plotlines and ideas over the last four seasons, they just dropped it.

    There were hints here and there in several eps, and the Tales of the Slayer comic anthology had an intriguing prologue by Joss. Finally, we see some follow-through. (Did anyone notice the similarities between the demon’s face paint and that of the First Slayer? That was kind of a cool detail.)

    The thing that really bugged me most of all? Where in the hell was Chloe for the last, what?, three or four episodes? No explanation for the disappearing/reappearing Slayerettes?

    And did I just miss it or did no one explain where Giles was this week? If anyone should have been there when Buffy did the “Slayer history” shadow show, it is Giles. Having him gone for no other reason than so that our gang won’t know what’s going on was ridiculous.

    So Nikki’s little box should have been passed on to the next Slayer upon her death? Why hasn’t Giles at least mentioned at some point over the last seven years “Hey, Buffy, as the Slayer you should have received this nifty box, but it seems to have vanished”? I hate when TPTB just start making up retroactive history and expect us to buy it.

    Okay, that ancient dude said that Buffy was the last guardian of the Hellmouth, right? Is that the Slayer’s role now? It wasn’t always. As far as we know, she’s not just the last guardian, she’s the only guardian.

    But, with last week’s episode and half of this week’s, at least the season seems to be picking up a little bit.

    • Daemonik says:

      Re: Lame, lame, lame…

      Okay, that ancient dude said that Buffy was the last guardian of the Hellmouth, right? Is that the Slayer’s role now? It wasn’t always. As far as we know, she’s not just the last guardian, she’s the only guardian.

      Interesting thing about that too, being the ‘last’ guardian could mean that she’ll lose the fight and the world will come to an end or it could mean that the Hellmouth gets sealed forever and doesn’t need to be gaurded anymore.

      Gotta love Joss for vagueness.

      As far as the slayerettes and Giles missing and then popping back up again, I can let that go for several reasons. One being that there is only so much time for the show to present it’s story that wasting 10 minutes for a roll-call each episode would be really annoying.

      Then there’s the fact that Giles has been actively gathering the slayerettes, so it’s easy to assume that he’s off to bring another one back and menacingly not touch her.

      Also, considering that Giles and the Watchers never did have much information about the First Slayer, and that the shadow box appeared to have not been opened in some time, it’s safe to say that he would have had no idea what it would do.

      • UncleJam says:

        Re: Lame, lame, lame…

        As far as the slayerettes and Giles missing and then popping back up again, I can let that go for several reasons. One being that there is only so much time for the show to present it’s story that wasting 10 minutes for a roll-call each episode would be really annoying.

        Then they shouldn’t introduce so many characters that the writers (and audience) become overwhelmed with them all.

        Then there’s the fact that Giles has been actively gathering the slayerettes, so it’s easy to assume that he’s off to bring another one back and menacingly not touch her.

        I kind of figured that’s where he was, but would have appreciated just a single line of dialogue explaining that. And don’t even remind me about the whole stupid “Giles is the First Evil” fiasco.

        Also, considering that Giles and the Watchers never did have much information about the First Slayer, and that the shadow box appeared to have not been opened in some time, it’s safe to say that he would have had no idea what it would do.

        That’s true. But an even bigger problem is why, if the box was supposed to be passed down from Slayer to Slayer and got “hijacked” by Principal Wood when his mother died (and wasn’t he just 4 years old at the time? Why would Nikki’s watcher allow that?), why is this the first we’ve ever heard of it? Surely in all those Watcher diaries there would be mention of the box, even if there’s no mention of what it does. The writers pulling stuff out of their asses, especially after seven years, is bad storytelling and just pisses me off.

  3. Alexius says:

    Power
    This Season Is Definitely About Power, Though I Forget Who Said It (It Was Another Bureau42 Regular Earlier in The Season.)

    A FanFic I’d Read A Year Or Two Ago Nailed The ‘Slayer Is Part Demon’ Thing, And I Almost Feel Cheated, Because I’d Already Heard That Idea, Though It’s Interesting To See How They go About It. My Current Prediction (They Change Pretty Frequently) Is That By The End Of The Series, Buffy Is Going To Give Up Her Power, And Become Ordinary. Something To The Effect Of Humanity Really Being All You Need. Principle Wood Doesn’t Need It, And He’s Out There kicking Ass. Same With Xander (Just Less Suave At It.)

    Brain Fart: Maybe The Slayer’s Power Isn’t Weakened By The Fact That There Are Two Slayers. Maybe It’s Because There’s Another With The Same Power (Conner.)

    Also, Did Anyone Get The Impression That The First ‘Slayer’ Was Actually Chained To The Earth, And Empowered Maybe As A Sacrifice? Like They Were TRying To Leave A Posioned Pill For Whatever Was Attacking The Early Men?

    And Didn’t That Final Shot Look Like It Was Done By LOTR’s Production Team?

    Also: Cloe Actually Was Missing For Some Episodes, And According To My Girlfriend, She Had Commitments At Disney That Kept her Busy. (The Actress Is In ‘Allie Mack’, Which Has No Relation To Cloe On Smallville’s Allison Mack, Besides The Alarming Number Of Name Coincidences.)

    • dcheesi says:

      Re: Power

      And Didn’t That Final Shot Look Like It Was Done By LOTR’s Production Team?

      Actually, it reminded me of the hellspawn army shots in “Spawn”. Same hellish underground backdrop, same cheesily superimposed hordes jeering and knashing their teeth (ok, so the hellspawn didn’t have teeth –you know what I mean :)

    • UncleJam says:

      Re: Power

      A FanFic I’d Read A Year Or Two Ago Nailed The ‘Slayer Is Part Demon’ Thing, And I Almost Feel Cheated, Because I’d Already Heard That Idea, Though It’s Interesting To See How They go About It.

      Well, Joss already addressed this in his Tales of the Slayer story, so it came as no surprise to me either. In that story, the First Slayer (hmm…First Slayer, First Evil…coincidence?) was not only part demon, but she was shunned by the very people who had created her for the reason that she was part demon. So they not only made her that way, but cast her out for being exactly what they made her. Harsh.

      And Didn’t That Final Shot Look Like It Was Done By LOTR’s Production Team?

      No kidding. Maybe they wrote it after watching the DVD one night?

      Also: Cloe Actually Was Missing For Some Episodes, And According To My Girlfriend, She Had Commitments At Disney That Kept her Busy. (The Actress Is In ‘Allie Mack’, Which Has No Relation To Cloe On Smallville’s Allison Mack, Besides The Alarming Number Of Name Coincidences.)

      Actually, Lalaine is on Lizzie McQuire; The Secret World of Alex Mack (which I assume is what you mean by “Allie Mack”) hasn’t been on the air for years but is currently in syndication on The N.

      Part of my disgust at how they’ve treated the Chloe character comes from the fact that we are obviously supposed to feel something for her and how she was manipulated by the First into suiciding. But I don’t and the main reason for that is her complete disappearance for several episodes. If they knew they were going to kill her, they should have kept her around so we could become invested in the character. Like how jarring would the “TTFN” reference have been if we already knew that Chloe had a Winnie the Pooh obsession, rather than being told that in some lame exposition. Or, they should have killed one of the Slayerettes that we have seen all along. Chloe’s absence has completely robbed her death of any significance.

      I did assume that Giles was off fetching more Slayerettes, but a single line to that effect would have been nice.

      • UncleJam says:

        Re: Power
        Sorry to comment on my own post, but what I was getting at with the Chloe bit was that I want to feel emotion for these characters, not be told what emotions I should be feeling. Does that make sense?

      • Alexius says:

        Re: Power

        Actually, Lalaine is on Lizzie McQuire; The Secret World of Alex Mack (which I assume is what you mean by “Allie Mack”) hasn’t been on the air for years but is currently in syndication on The N.

        Yeah, That Sounds More Right. Please No One Tell My Girlfriend I Wasn’t Paying Close Attention To Her. (I’ll blame The Zelda Commercial That Was On. ;^)

  4. zlynx says:

    First Slayer, First Evil
    I had a wild thought. What if the demon in the Slayer is the First Evil or part of it. What if Buffy can only win by killing all the potentials and then herself? That would be evil.

    Not that I really think that’s what will happen. :-)

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