Angel Discussion – “Shiny Happy People” (new)

We’ve seen yet another sci-fi/fantasy child that ages to an adult in seconds and then suddenly continues at a normal rate. Let’s see if the rest of the episode can make up for that.

18 replies on “Angel Discussion – “Shiny Happy People” (new)”

  1. UncleJam says:

    To be fair…
    …this isn’t quite the same thing.

    “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad! And I thought “Glory” was bad) wasn’t really born as a child and then grew up at an accelerated rate. She manifested as a fully-grown adult. Well, after the squid-thing, that is.

    Oh, apologies to anyone named Jasmine who might be reading this…

    • y42 says:

      Re: To be fair…

      “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad! And I thought “Glory” was bad)

      Hum, yeah, ’cause Buffy is such a great name for a superhero…
      /sarcasm

      • UncleJam says:

        Re: To be fair…

        “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad! And I thought “Glory” was bad)

        Hum, yeah, ’cause Buffy is such a great name for a superhero…
        /sarcasm

        Touché!

        • Alexius says:

          Re: To be fair…

          “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad! And I thought “Glory” was bad)

          Hum, yeah, ’cause Buffy is such a great name for a superhero…
          /sarcasm

          Touché!

          Somebody Should Talk to Her People, That Name Is Striking Fear In Nobody’s Heart.

          -EvilXander

    • fiziko says:

      Re: To be fair…

      In the interests of maintaining fairness, I also concede that their options were limited when they learned of Charisma Carpenter’s pregnancy. Connor’s birth and development elsewhere was an excellent solution to this problem. This one is decent, but requires excellent execution to feel new. (They’ve been doing well on this front so far.)

    • graikor says:

      Re: To be fair…

      “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad!

      I’ve got a buddy with an ex named “Jasmine” that would think it’s very appropriate…

      anyway, Gina Torres will always be “Sarge” to me…

      • BuellBoy says:

        Re: To be fair…

        “Jasmine” (god, what a horrible name for the Big Bad!

        I’ve got a buddy with an ex named “Jasmine” that would think it’s very appropriate…

        anyway, Gina Torres will always be “Sarge” to me…

        No, Victoria Pratt will always be “Sarge,” (at least when she’s not “Shalamar”). Gina Torres will always be “Hel!”

        • Foeclan says:

          Re: To be fair…

          No, Victoria Pratt will always be “Sarge,” (at least when she’s not “Shalamar”). Gina Torres will always be “Hel!”

          More specifically, ‘Helen’. Which makes the first name they thought of for her a little more amusing (intentional or not, what with the whole Helen of Troi connotation and all).

  2. fiziko says:

    Good episode

    I swore Wesley was faking subservience until the last scene of Act 3. Oh, well. Now we’ll get to see Fred’s part in the greater scheme of things.

    I don’t think she was called, either. I suspect that bleeding is theraputic in all of this. Stoler was attacked, and Fred said she cleaned the shirt until her fingers bled. The goddess also ensured that nobody was injured in battle. We’ll know when we see if Angel’s shoulder wound affects him, I guess.

    • Daemonik says:

      Re: Good episode

      I suspect that bleeding is theraputic in all of this.him, I guess.

      Hrmmm, bleeding…..
      Perhaps Jasmin is a disease then? Or an analogy for a disease….
      Physicians used to bleed people to remove ill humours from the blood, so maybe there’s a nod to that……
      Interesting thoughts :)

    • y42 says:

      Re: Good episode

      We’ll know when we see if Angel’s shoulder wound affects him, I guess.

      I didn’t notice the wounding. But the signal I was getting was all screwy. I’d get frame drops and black outs and the sound would go ooOOooOoOooooOo some times.

      I did notice however that Lorne’s interior decorating skills were greatly appreciated ;- ) The ambiguously gay demon…

      • fiziko says:

        Re: Good episode

        I didn’t notice the wounding. But the signal I was getting was all screwy. I’d get frame drops and black outs and the sound would go ooOOooOoOooooOo some times.

        He took a crossbow bolt in the shoulder when Fred fired on Jasmine. (He jumped out in front to protect her.)

        • y42 says:

          Re: Good episode

          I didn’t notice the wounding. But the signal I was getting was all screwy. I’d get frame drops and black outs and the sound would go ooOOooOoOooooOo some times.

          He took a crossbow bolt in the shoulder when Fred fired on Jasmine. (He jumped out in front to protect her.)

          Oh yeah…well he was acting “normal” afterwards…wanting to kill Fred and all.

          I think that the “cure” is blood too, but not yours, Jasmine’s blood. The first to see the big J’s true face (shudders) was bumped into by the vampire that wounded Jasmine, and then Fred touched the blood she left on her shirt. I think its Jasmine’s blood that is the key.
          That would explain why Cordelia is kept in a coma, ’cause if she wakes she’ll see Jasmine’s true face on account of being her mother.

    • vandemar says:

      Re: Good episode

      I swore Wesley was faking subservience until the last scene of Act 3. Oh, well. Now we’ll get to see Fred’s part in the greater scheme of things.

      I thought that too, and still think there’s a good chance that he is. Too many things point in that direction. Perhaps Wesley was paranoid that Fred was being used to test him. Or perhaps he knew he was being watched and didn’t want to blow his cover. If he really wanted to rat on Fred, there are much subtler ways to do it. On the other hand, the writers might just be pulling another Giles on us.

      What I want to know is why Lorne is affected by Jasmine’s enchantment aura, while other demons aren’t.

      • Babbster says:

        Re: Good episode

        What I want to know is why Lorne is affected by Jasmine’s enchantment aura, while other demons aren’t.

        I’m guessing it’s that pesky soul thing. After all, Angel is still a demon and he was affected too.

        • BuellBoy says:

          Re: Good episode

          What I want to know is why Lorne is affected by Jasmine’s enchantment aura, while other demons aren’t.

          I’m guessing it’s that pesky soul thing. After all, Angel is still a demon and he was affected too.

          So Lorne is a demon with a soul?

          • fiziko says:

            Re: Good episode

            So Lorne is a demon with a soul?

            We’ve heard him sing enough to know he has soul. As for a soul, it’s probable given his behaviour compared to the soulless, but it’s not necessarily guaranteed.

            • Kyla Morgan says:

              Signs
              Like what faith said…they should wear signs! I can never remeber who the “good” demons are.
              That was definitley a weird episode. It just wasn’t as weird as a few other Angel episodes.
              Personally I found Jasmine kinda creepy. You know with out the who blood, bugs and rotting flesh thing.
              Poor Winnifred.
              I’m just gald to see that Angels happy. Yay Angel!!

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