12 replies on “Movie Discussion – “Blade: Trinity””

  1. Insomniac says:

    Yes and no.
    I’ll not spoil anything for those that haven’t seen this, I’ll just gripe about general things.

    Some of the action scenes in this were amazing (in my opinion). However, aside from Blade and Hannibal King I didn’t think the rest of the cast was even trying. Blades secondary sidekicks got very little introduction, very little background and very little screen time.

    The vampires all looked like they’d had a bad day at the dentist… How on earth are they supposed to mingle with humans when their big gnashers keep sticking out?
    Also, Triple H looked a little chubby I thought and I groaned when he started with the wrestling moves, even though I was expecting it…

    The wee chick girl fights with her iPod blasting away. How exactly she knows that somebody is sneaking up behind her baffles me. And does anybody else wonder why vampires are so scary when Blade & his pals seem to be able to give them all a kicking without breaking a sweat?

    I’m gonna stop there cos now I’m just complaining. Aside from what I’ve just said I did enjoy this film, but mainly for the action scenes, the rest of the film just didn’t seem to hang together very well.

    • y42 says:

      Re: Yes and no.

      Aside from what I’ve just said I did enjoy this film, but mainly for the action scenes, the rest of the film just didn’t seem to hang together very well.

      I think PVP summed it up pretty well.

      Aside from that, the first two Blade movies were entertaining, I was far from bored for the hour and a half I paid for, but man, you have to leave your brain at the door!

      First of all, silver is for WEREVOLVES, you dopes. Secondly, if you’re gonna have the whole plot revolve around the fact that Blade is the “daywalker”, don’t have the vilain show up in broad daylight with the aid of a lil’ freakin’ sunblock! Sheesh, the dark visor on a full face motorcycle helmet with full body suit… ok, we buy that, but dammit, if any vampire can go for a stroll on the beach with a bit of FPS 30 on, what is Blade’s advantage, exactly? He gets to save on his pharmacy bill? Dumb dumb dumb.

      And I’m affraid of going to see this, they went with the skinny hot chick as a strong woman warrior character… that’s never a good sign. Buffy pulled it off, with magic. All the other ones just, don’t, work. Ah well, there’s always Lewis from Robocop and Dizzy from Starship to compensate.

      • GrimSean says:

        Re: Yes and no.

        First of all, silver is for WEREVOLVES, you dopes.

        Actually, silver works for everything, and it’s been used in every Blade movie IIRC.

        • y42 says:

          Re: Yes and no.

          First of all, silver is for WEREVOLVES, you dopes.

          1. Actually, silver works for everything,
          2. and it’s been used in every Blade movie IIRC.

          1. Do you have a trusty indian sidekick named Tonto, by any chance?

          2. That would be why I mentioned it.

          • GrimSean says:

            Re: Yes and no.

            First of all, silver is for WEREVOLVES, you dopes.

            1. Actually, silver works for everything,
            2. and it’s been used in every Blade movie IIRC.

            1. Do you have a trusty indian sidekick named Tonto, by any chance?

            2. That would be why I mentioned it.

            And yet I’m still not certain why you’re griping about it. The mythology of silver and why it’s used for this type of thing is easily found on the internet – here’s a nice wiki on vampires that explains it.

            Also, don’t you find it slightly ironic that you modified what I typed and still have done nothing about your own spelling mistake?

            Oh, and the Tonto thing? Here’s a quote for that, courtesy of Dave Matthew’s If I Had A Boat:

            The Mystery Masked Man was smart
            He got himself a Tonto
            ‘Cause Tonto did the dirty work for free
            But Tonto, he was smarter
            One day said “Kemosabe,
            kiss my ass I bought a boat
            I’m going out to sea”

            I’m not sure if it’s really relevant, but I like the song and I tend to mention that quote whenever someone mentions Tonto and his clueless sidekick, The Lone Ranger.

            • y42 says:

              Re: Yes and no.

              And yet I’m still not certain why you’re griping about it. The mythology of silver and why it’s used for this type of thing is easily found on the internet – here’s a nice wiki on vampires that explains it.

              From your own, damn, link: “Some Slavic peoples believed in vampires as early as the 4th century. In their mythology, a vampire drank blood, was afraid of (but could not be killed by) silver

              And I’m griping about it because those vamps are not the least bit scary: All you need to destroy them is a silver spoon! It’s a cheap deus ex machina that doesn’t even fit the mythology of vampires.
              Sheesh, even with werewolves, you actually have to inflic a mortal wound with silver to kill him, not just wing him and he asplodes. It bugs me to no end. The WWE wraslin moves I can live with, the silver thing is a tough one to swallow.

              Also, don’t you find it slightly ironic that you modified what I typed and still have done nothing about your own spelling mistake?

              Not in the least. And I liked you better with the long hair, after the “dance” phase.

              See, THAT was irony.

              • GrimSean says:

                Re: Yes and no.
                Also from the damn link (as you so politely put it) if you had bothered to read down a bit farther, that is:

                Objects made of silver, which can keep a vampire away or harm them if they are in physical contact. A popular American addition to the folklore is the idea of fashioning bullets made of silver so mortal vampire hunters can use firearms against the monster.

                It’s an American addition. This is an American movie, which – unless you’ve gone to see it by now – neither of us has seen, yet are (for some unknown reason) arguing over.

                I think this is one of those suspensions-of-disbelief things that you just have to live with if you’re going to watch Blade. If they have stepped it up to the silver just touching the vampire causing instant death, I’ll agree with you, as that would be stupid. However, the other films in the series showed silver as hurting them like garlic, in a sort of crippling way, and the previews I’ve seen so far seem to support that. You should probably also remember that Blade is a highly trained warrior, so it’s conceivable that he’s shooting them in the heart each time they “asplode”.

                The WWE thing is what aggravates me the most about this movie – The Rock I can stand, as he can actually act (I really liked The Rundown) but I don’t like Triple H – he strikes me as full of himself. I saw an interview with him on TV the other day where he was talking about the movie – he said that Wesley Snipes was a nice guy, but he could totally take him in a fight. I think somebody forgot to tell the guy that Snipes is a fifth degree Black Belt and practices Capoeira, which means Snipes is not a person to mess around with.

                I’m lost on the source of that dance phase quote, perhaps it would be funny if I knew, but right now it seems petulant.

                • y42 says:

                  Re: Yes and no.

                  Also from the damn link (as you so politely put it) if you had bothered to read down a bit farther, that is:

                  Objects made of silver, which can keep a vampire away or harm them if they are in physical contact. A popular American addition to the folklore is the idea of fashioning bullets made of silver so mortal vampire hunters can use firearms against the monster.

                  It’s an American addition. This is an American movie, which – unless you’ve gone to see it by now – neither of us has seen, yet are (for some unknown reason) arguing over.

                  I think this is one of those suspensions-of-disbelief things that you just have to live with if you’re going to watch Blade. If they have stepped it up to the silver just touching the vampire causing instant death, I’ll agree with you, as that would be stupid. However, the other films in the series showed silver as hurting them like garlic, in a sort of crippling way, and the previews I’ve seen so far seem to support that. You should probably also remember that Blade is a highly trained warrior, so it’s conceivable that he’s shooting them in the heart each time they “asplode”.

                  The WWE thing is what aggravates me the most about this movie – The Rock I can stand, as he can actually act (I really liked The Rundown) but I don’t like Triple H – he strikes me as full of himself. I saw an interview with him on TV the other day where he was talking about the movie – he said that Wesley Snipes was a nice guy, but he could totally take him in a fight. I think somebody forgot to tell the guy that Snipes is a fifth degree Black Belt and practices Capoeira, which means Snipes is not a person to mess around with.

                  I’m lost on the source of that dance phase quote, perhaps it would be funny if I knew, but right now it seems petulant.

                  Watch the first movies, he only needs to wing ’em with the silver (in the same way that Buffy only needed to poke them in the general area of the chest, not actually near the heart or anything).

                  Capoeira is the brazillian art of asking for a punch in the nuts.

                  Alanis Morissette had a dance hit before her angry phase… it’s like a million spoons when all you need is a knife.

                  And as for the “popular American addition” supporting the popular american film that has it… that kind of circular logic makes me nauseous. I don’t think I like you anymore if you really think like that.

      • nkuzmik says:

        Re: Yes and no.

        Aside from that, the first two Blade movies were entertaining, I was far from bored for the hour and a half I paid for, but man, you have to leave your brain at the door!

        There are certainly movies that require you to think. There also movies that don’t require thought. Statistically speaking, action movies fall into the second category, but there are occasionally some that fall into the first. Blade Trinity is definitely in the second category. But as an action flick this isn’t exactly a minus.

        Please raise your hand if you ever complained about lack of plot in Baywatch(assuming your sexual preferences apply)

        First of all, silver is for WEREVOLVES, you dopes.

        If we want to get technical, yes silver is the weapon of choice for Werewolves. For vampires, the most effective method is:

          1. Ash stake through the heart
          2. Decapitation
          3. Tie a piece of twine around the vamp’s left thumb(I think)
          4. Put a rusty nail through the vamp’s navel
          5. Bury the vamp in consecrated soil
          6. Place three beans on top of the grave(Vampires have an obsession with counting. Should you have messed up any of the previous steps, the vamp will be too facinated counting the beans to bother rising from the grave again)

        Secondly, if you’re gonna have the whole plot revolve around the fact that Blade is the “daywalker”, don’t have the vilain show up in broad daylight with the aid of a lil’ freakin’ sunblock! Sheesh, the dark visor on a full face motorcycle helmet with full body suit… ok, we buy that, but dammit, if any vampire can go for a stroll on the beach with a bit of FPS 30 on, what is Blade’s advantage, exactly? He gets to save on his pharmacy bill? Dumb dumb dumb.

        The full body suit and the sunblock are both stopgaps. Yes, you have the option, but neither one is really all that good. It’s like wearing a radiation or biohazard suit. Just because you can make excursions into this otherwise hostile environment doesn’t mean you should.

        The difference between Blade being a Daywalker and vamps having the gear to make forays into the sunlight is like the difference between a person with an immunity to say, Small Pox, and the CDC dudes in the moon-suits.

        And I’m affraid of going to see this, they went with the skinny hot chick as a strong woman warrior character… that’s never a good sign. Buffy pulled it off, with magic. All the other ones just, don’t, work. Ah well, there’s always Lewis from Robocop and Dizzy from Starship to compensate.

        If you haven’t even seen the movie, why don’t you save your ire until you are sure that it is applicable?

        • y42 says:

          Re: Yes and no.

          1. There are certainly movies that require you to think. There also movies that don’t require thought. Statistically speaking, action movies fall into the second category[…]
          2. If we want to get technical, yes silver is the weapon of choice for Werewolves. For vampires, the most effective method is:
          3. Place three beans on top of the grave
          4. The difference between Blade being a Daywalker and vamps having [sunblock] to make forays into the sunlight is like […]
          5. If you haven’t even seen the movie, why don’t you save your ire until you are sure that it is applicable?

          1. Repeating what I said… what’s your point?

          2. Chopping their head off and boiling it in vinegar after having placed an onion in their mouth, duh.

          3. How long does it take you to count up to 3?

          4. The difference between a black dude and an albino. Seriously.

          5. Because I don’t need to see the movie to be sure it’s applicable. I’ll come back and post a “told you so” once I’ve seen it, but I can smell it from here.

      • Insomniac says:

        Re: Yes and no.

        Secondly, if you’re gonna have the whole plot revolve around the fact that Blade is the “daywalker”, don’t have the vilain show up in broad daylight with the aid of a lil’ freakin’ sunblock! Sheesh, the dark visor on a full face motorcycle helmet with full body suit… ok, we buy that, but dammit, if any vampire can go for a stroll on the beach with a bit of FPS 30 on, what is Blade’s advantage, exactly? He gets to save on his pharmacy bill? Dumb dumb dumb.

        I’m not sure if your refering to Blade 1 or Trinity there but, in the case of Trinity I think the bad guy can walk around in daylight for the following reason (possible spoilers so hilight):
        [hilight]

        In Trinity the main bad guy is meant to be the original vampire, the first. He also explains with disgust (more than once IIRC) that the current evolution of vampires are but a shadow of their ancestors and that they are nowhere near as powerful as they used to be (whether he meant physically/magically or just in general I don’t know). I’m guessing that back in the day they could stroll about in daylight quite happily (which is why Drake can), but thousands of years of interbreeding and ‘turning’ or mixing with humans has robbed them of many of their abilities. Which is why they are trying to infuse themselves with Drakes blood to become daywalkers.

        I think? ;-)

        [/hilight]

  2. is says:

    very simple.
    looks like a renter. I’ll get it from netflix in a month or 6… I won’t be enthused, but I won’t be disappointed.

    The action scenes in the first two were the only real reason to see the movies. I expect this to be the same.

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