26 replies on “LOST Season premiere discussion”

  1. Set says:

    This show makes my head hurt
    Just when I think I semi-understand what’s going on, they do something like what they did last night with that bloody hatch.

  2. valen1260 says:

    what’s in the hatch
    I thought the opening was great! I figured we were getting the backstory of a to-be introduced character (like the untalented Michelle Rodriguez). Not until the building rocked and the unknown individual went for his guns did I know what was going on. It was fantastic.

    That said, the scene with Jack and Desmond at the stadium seemed a bit forced, but it does lend itself to some interesting questions. There’s Locke’s theory of destiny. There’s also the notions of quarantine, Desmond’s almost-a-doctor status, and his "race around the world". Was he some kind of germ-warfare agent (like in Twelve Monkeys)? Then again, this show is full of coincidences that seem like more than that, but aren’t.

    But what’s with the thirty-year-old computer equipment? Tape spools and is that a Tandy? Desmond hasn’t been in the ground that long, based on the backstory.

    • y42 says:

      Re: what’s in the hatch

      I thought the opening was great!

      But what’s with the thirty-year-old computer equipment? Tape spools and is that a Tandy?

      I loved the opening, and according to some, that was an Apple II.

      Now… why is “Quarantine” written on the inside of the hatch?

      • valen1260 says:

        Re: what’s in the hatch

        Now… why is “Quarantine” written on the inside of the hatch?

        For the same reason Microsoft puts the EULA inside the “if you break this seal you’re agreeing to the EULA” box. If there is a logic behind it, that means it was meant to warn people not to leave the hatch. So, was Desmond being protected from the island?

        • y42 says:

          Re: what’s in the hatch

          So, was Desmond being protected from the island?

          Or is the area inside the hatch a quarantine zone itself, leading to an inner sanctum of islandy goodness?

    • Trekkie says:

      Re: what’s in the hatch
      I’m just going to spoiler everything I have to say


      The opening sequence was very well done. Unfortunately I’d scanned something on AICN before I realized it was an out and out description of the entire thing so I kinda new what was going on. however they did a great job and I still enjoyed it.

      Honestly though, I felt this was 54 min of filler, 6 min of new stuff. They really should have completely introduced Desmond or whatever instead of taking an hour to get in the damn hatch.

      Walt was a bit freaky.

      The TV Guide description in my TiVo seems to be centered around the activities of the boat, so that should be interesting on what they have to say.

      • zonk3r says:

        Re: what’s in the hatch

        Honestly though, I felt this was 54 min of filler, 6 min of new stuff.

        that is fairly typical of season premieres of shows that have a continuous story. they have to get folks that haven’t seen the show hooked into it. since this is abc’s biggest show you can bet they are doing everything they can to make sure folks are going to watch…

        • vanyel says:

          Re: what’s in the hatch

          that is fairly typical of season premieres of shows that have a continuous story. they have to get folks that haven’t seen the show hooked into it.

          There was an entire episode summarizing season 1 just before it. In fact, I watched it with a couple friends who haven’t seen the show before we watched the premiere itself. I’m not sure I hooked them on it, but they seemed to like it. Of course, being Bab5 fans, they were excited to see “Delenn” ;-)

  3. valen1260 says:

    Walt
    Did anyone understand what Walt said? Were we supposed to? I liked the asynchronous effect of his speech.

    • bnorwood says:

      Re: Walt

      Did anyone understand what Walt said? Were we supposed to? I liked the asynchronous effect of his speech.

      According to what I found on a lost discussion board, if you play what he was mumbling backwards, he said “Press the button. No button’s bad.” Of course, this just creates a whole new set of questions.

  4. octa says:

    :D
    Doh that was me, forgot to log in :x(Didn’t think you’d quote me!)
    —–Spoilers—–

    First of all I thought the episode was great. Resolving one of the biggest questions of the show right away was well done. The viewing audience really needed that carrot to stay interested. It’s kind of lame that they can just introduce a character in a flashback and they’re suddenly on the island though. Giving writers that much flexibility can sometimes make the whole thing seem very convoluted. At this point I really want to know what the f’ is going; hopefully there’s a good payoff at the end of this whole thing.

    So I noticed the wet Walt was talking backwards, anyone know what he was saying?

    • y42 says:

      Re: :D

      So I noticed the wet Walt was talking backwards, anyone know what he was saying?

      Red room, red room? ;-)

      • Damien says:

        Re: :D

        So I noticed the wet Walt was talking backwards, anyone know what he was saying?

        Red room, red room? ;-)

        Anyone notice a smell of engine oil?

        Damien

    • hitch says:

      Re: :D

      Doh that was me, forgot to log in :x(Didn’t think you’d quote me!)
      —–Spoilers—–

      First of all I thought the episode was great. Resolving one of the biggest questions of the show right away was well done. The viewing audience really needed that carrot to stay interested. It’s kind of lame that they can just introduce a character in a flashback and they’re suddenly on the island though. Giving writers that much flexibility can sometimes make the whole thing seem very convoluted. At this point I really want to know what the f’ is going; hopefully there’s a good payoff at the end of this whole thing.

      So I noticed the wet Walt was talking backwards, anyone know what he was saying?

      yes.
      backwards:
      .dab si nottub ehT .nottub hsup t’noD

      radio station I listen to is obsessed with this show too (part of how I got into it) and they used their station gear to reverse it.

  5. octa says:

    gripping
    Oh and was anyone as moved as I was with the scene when Jack was in the O.R. with the woman and he makes the promise? That’s quality television right there :D

    • valen1260 says:

      Re: gripping

      Oh and was anyone as moved as I was with the scene when Jack was in the O.R. with the woman and he makes the promise? That’s quality television right there :D

      I’d say melodrama.

  6. Trekkie says:

    Some more tidbits I’ve found:
    Completely Spoilerized


    – The prescription number on the medicine bottle Desmond used to extract something from was indeed the numbers.

    – When Shannon see’s Walt in the jungle after chasing Vincent, Walt says, "Don’t press the button, the button is bad." This is most likely alluding to the final scene when Jack is about to press the "execute" button on the computer in the hatch and Locke stops him. My theory on the execute button is that it controls the Island’s security system/monster.

    When Jack is exploring the hatch in the final scene I noticed two things. The first is the number 108 that was on the painted mural. If you add up the dreaded numbers, the sum is 108. The second thing I noticed was that when Jack was looking at the mural it cut to his facial expression after three separate shots of the mural. The first shot showed a paint of an eye. The second showed the letter M. The final shot showed the word, "sick." Add that up and you get Eye M sick = I am sick. Could this be a possible to hint to the disease that Rousseau talked about in the first season? I am not sure but I definitely thing it has something to do with Desmond’s daily excercise and medicine intake. It is a possibility that Desmond has a weak immune system and goes through this routine to keep himself in good health.

    • valen1260 says:

      Re: Some more tidbits I’ve found:
      Also spoilerized…

      The prescription number on the medicine bottle Desmond used to extract something from was indeed the numbers.

      Maybe that’s some kind of patient number. Desmond is patient 4-8-15-16-23-42, and his medicine and, um, cage are labeled such.

      "Don’t press the button, the button is bad." … the execute button … controls the Island’s security system/monster.

      Great idea, but we saw Desmond’s level of surveilance (mirrors) and available technology. Even if he had a pet monster, how would he know when to use it?

      It is a possibility that Desmond has a weak immune system and goes through this routine to keep himself in good health.

      Maybe he’s taking inoculations. He’s so well supplied and if he does, in fact, have a monster security system, then he’s probably there willingly. It doesn’t seem to fit that he’s in a sort of leper colony, nor does it look like he’s there researching anything.

  7. octa says:

    spoiler beware
    For those interested in possibly having the whole show spoiled for them an interesting theory has been postulated here:

    http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=561366

    Though I think the poster’s source is suspect the underlying theory itself is a very good one.

    • hitch says:

      Re: spoiler beware

      For those interested in possibly having the whole show spoiled for them an interesting theory has been postulated here:

      http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=561366

      Though I think the poster’s source is suspect the underlying theory itself is a very good one.

      I’ve been looking into this – I can’t find the book anywhere, and the only place it seems to be mentioned online is in disucssions of Lost’s season 2. I find that to be suspect in the same way as the Followers of Rambaldi. It doesn’t mean it’s not going to be an important plot point, but it is typical of this show’s writers to make up huge sweeping historical bases for their plots from whole cloth. I love Abrams…

      • valen1260 says:

        Re: spoiler beware

        I’ve been looking into this – I can’t find the book anywhere

        First off, I’m glad there are some people unwilling to blindly bite the hook in front of them. That whole article reminded of a bad email forward. I’m relieved that at least some people are trying to dig beneath the surface.

        Second, even if something like this were true, you can’t assume the writers knew about it. The sheer level of correlation in this case, though, indicates they must have (again, provided it’s not fabricated), but sometimes writers just get lucky.

        Finally, if it is "leaked" backstory, with info someone behind the scenes wants us to uncover, it could’ve been handled better. If it’s fiction, and people are going to discover that it’s fiction, then just treat it as such. Oceanic is a fictional airline that we accept, so why not just write this mathematician into the mythos also, like on his own website (a la oceanicflight815.com, which in itself is brilliant marketing).

  8. chad says:

    Genre?

    Can someone explain to me why Lost is considered scif-fi genre? From the little I’ve seen of it, there doesn’t seem to be much along that line. Also my roommate, who’s watched the entire first season, was surprised when I told him it’s considered genre. Feel free to include spoilers if necessary.

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    • zonk3r says:

      Re: Genre?

      Can someone explain to me why Lost is considered scif-fi genre?

      ever hear the saying “you’ll know it when you see it”? i suppose you could call it fantasy but i don’t think that quite fits it. anyway, you’ll have to see it to put it into classification for yourself.

    • octa says:

      Re: Genre?
      I’m surprised your roommate was surprised :)

      Here’s a few reasons it’s genre (spoilered out):

      It’s revealed one of the main characters walking around was paralyzed before the crash.
      A polar bear attacked them on a tropical island
      The characters seem to be connected together through major events in their lives. eg. One worked for a box company that was owned by another character. One had a run in with another’s father in a bar shortly before he died. Another was a doctor and let the father of another character die in the emergency room to save another person’s life. etc.
      There are a set of numbers that seem to be attributed to certain circumstances

      It’s mostly character driven but those genre elements are there.

      • valen1260 says:

        Re: Genre?

        Another was a doctor and let the father of another character die in the emergency room to save another person’s life. etc.

        I missed that. Whose father was it?

        • octa says:

          Re: Genre?
          It’s easy to miss but when Jack was in the E.R. saving his future fiance the other person in the accident has the same last name as Boone and Shannon. (S2ep1)

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