Hiro has lost his plot-problematizing powers, and the government sees the X-Factor Mutants Heroes as a threat. Can the second half of the third season “Volume Four” restore the show to its former glory?
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4th season According to the commercials this is the "fourth season". And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
Re: 4th season
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season". And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
Peter’s ability did seem different this time. Previously he only had to be near a person to absorb their ability so he should have had everyone’s ability that was on the plane.
Re: 4th season
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season". And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
Peter’s ability did seem different this time. Previously he only had to be near a person to absorb their ability so he should have had everyone’s ability that was on the plane.
Ah, but Peter is WAY too slow on the uptake to cue in on that. Remember how long it took him to figure out his powers in the first seasons? How he voluntarily went to meet radioactive man? He’s like Harry Potter, he’s got magick powers and his heart is in the right place, but he’s got the brains of a dead gopher.
Even if his powers could do that, we can’t trust him to act accordingly.
shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season". And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
Ah, so that was what was going on. I was suffering from a severe case of "yeah, whatever, they save the people, blahblah" by that point, and I was looking at my compy instead of my teevy. I really don’t care anymore. Since they started giving and taking away powers all willy nilly, it’s like how when a comic book character dies, I KNOW it has no consequences, so I can’t be bothered to give a damn. And the whole "CIA torture flight" thing was, I dunno, it felt cheap to me.
I’m only still watching for Hiro.
But if your theory abut the limits of Peter are correct, I guess my theory is that when he meets Ando again, he gets back to his old munchkinny self.
I just hope they don’t do another "a total solar eclipse lasts for hours, all over the world" piece of painfully stupid storytelling before I give up on the show.
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
… I really don’t care anymore. Since they started giving and taking away powers all willy nilly, it’s like how when a comic book character dies, I KNOW it has no consequences, so I can’t be bothered …
That sounds familiar…
oh yeah… that’s exactly what I said in the middle of Volume 2.
Welcome to the former watchers of Heroes… make your self comfortable, just be sure to slide all the way to the end of the bench; we’re expecting a large group.
<sigh>
I WAS actually holding out a glimmer of hope that the ""new producers"" could pull this back from the brink. – Shouldda known better…
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
Welcome to the former watchers of Heroes… make your self comfortable, just be sure to slide all the way to the end of the bench; we’re expecting a large group.
I’m not there yet (Hiro as the Worlds Best Sidekick is relevant to my interests), but keep a seat for me.
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency It’s like Saturday Night Live — every season you swear it can’t get any more painful, but then somehow it does.
Re: 4th season
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season".
Apparently. Corrected.
Re: 4th season
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season". And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
I suspect Peter only retains a power he absorbs for a limited time. Otherwise, he would have just tried to fly out of the plane. However, he held on for dear life as if he knew that he no longer had Nathan’s power. We know he only has a power thanks to the magic formula from last season. However, we have no real idea how it works or what it did to him. Chalk it up to the writers giving themselves plenty of wiggle room and hand waving to move things along. I’ll play patient for now and see how they run with this.
My thoughts on Heroes. I think it is clear at this point that they didn’t expect Heroes to last past the first season, and that that season was a fluke. I have also discovered that if I don’t think too deeply about each episode I enjoy watching them. They are like candy, they taste great but have no nutritional value what-so-ever.
Continuity I keep hoping we meet Future Hiro from the first season (first episode I think). Where he had no accent, spoke perfect english, and was badass.
One thought that keeps running through my head whenever I watch this show is: The Cylons have a plan; the writers don’t know what it is.
I don’t know who on this board coined that phrase, but I still love it.
4th season
According to the commercials this is the "fourth season".
And Peter seems to have lost all his powers, too. Near the end it looked like he was taking powers from other people just like his dad did. It seemed to me that he could only have one power at a time, and possibly whoever’s power he was using couldn’t use their power until Peter took someone else’s. Did anyone else think the same thing?
Re: 4th season
Peter’s ability did seem different this time. Previously he only had to be near a person to absorb their ability so he should have had everyone’s ability that was on the plane.
Re: 4th season
Ah, but Peter is WAY too slow on the uptake to cue in on that. Remember how long it took him to figure out his powers in the first seasons? How he voluntarily went to meet radioactive man?
He’s like Harry Potter, he’s got magick powers and his heart is in the right place, but he’s got the brains of a dead gopher.
Even if his powers could do that, we can’t trust him to act accordingly.
shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
Ah, so that was what was going on.
I was suffering from a severe case of "yeah, whatever, they save the people, blahblah" by that point, and I was looking at my compy instead of my teevy.
I really don’t care anymore. Since they started giving and taking away powers all willy nilly, it’s like how when a comic book character dies, I KNOW it has no consequences, so I can’t be bothered to give a damn.
And the whole "CIA torture flight" thing was, I dunno, it felt cheap to me.
I’m only still watching for Hiro.
But if your theory abut the limits of Peter are correct, I guess my theory is that when he meets Ando again, he gets back to his old munchkinny self.
I just hope they don’t do another "a total solar eclipse lasts for hours, all over the world" piece of painfully stupid storytelling before I give up on the show.
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
That sounds familiar…
oh yeah… that’s exactly what I said in the middle of Volume 2.
Welcome to the former watchers of Heroes… make your self comfortable, just be sure to slide all the way to the end of the bench; we’re expecting a large group.
<sigh>
I WAS actually holding out a glimmer of hope that the ""new producers"" could pull this back from the brink. – Shouldda known better…
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
I’m not there yet (Hiro as the Worlds Best Sidekick is relevant to my interests), but keep a seat for me.
Re: shouldn’t have broken the internal consistency
It’s like Saturday Night Live — every season you swear it can’t get any more painful, but then somehow it does.
Re: 4th season
Apparently. Corrected.
Re: 4th season
I suspect Peter only retains a power he absorbs for a limited time. Otherwise, he would have just tried to fly out of the plane. However, he held on for dear life as if he knew that he no longer had Nathan’s power. We know he only has a power thanks to the magic formula from last season. However, we have no real idea how it works or what it did to him. Chalk it up to the writers giving themselves plenty of wiggle room and hand waving to move things along. I’ll play patient for now and see how they run with this.
My thoughts on Heroes.
I think it is clear at this point that they didn’t expect Heroes to last past the first season, and that that season was a fluke. I have also discovered that if I don’t think too deeply about each episode I enjoy watching them. They are like candy, they taste great but have no nutritional value what-so-ever.
Continuity
I keep hoping we meet Future Hiro from the first season (first episode I think). Where he had no accent, spoke perfect english, and was badass.
One thought that keeps running through my head whenever I watch this show is:
The Cylons have a plan; the writers don’t know what it is.
I don’t know who on this board coined that phrase, but I still love it.