Life on Mars?

Perhaps Mars lacks little green men, tentacled invaders, or whatever Bowie was singing about in the ’70s, but life of some kind may be hiding on our neighbouring world. At least, NASA has once more raised the question.

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7 replies on “Life on Mars?”

  1. GrimSean says:

    Ziggy Stardust?

    …or whatever Bowie was singing about in the ’70s…

    I believe it was spiders. Spiders from Mars.

    • Timeshredder says:

      Re: Ziggy Stardust?

      Yeah, but he also had the song, “Life on Mars?”

      • GrimSean says:

        Re: Ziggy Stardust?

        Yeah, but he also had the song, “Life on Mars?”

        True, but when I posted my original comment, Ziggy Stardust was playing on WinAmp – thus the Spiders from Mars.

        • zonk3r says:

          Re: Ziggy Stardust?

          Yeah, but he also had the song, “Life on Mars?”

          True, but when I posted my original comment, Ziggy Stardust was playing on WinAmp – thus the Spiders from Mars.

          It’s on America’s tortured brow that Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.

          bowie = my fave.

  2. y42 says:

    desensitized curmodgeon
    Well, since someone at NASA keeps saying stuff to that effect every few month, I don’t even bother reading the articles in depth anymore. Sheesh, ever tiny deviation in gasses or rock morphology, they jump on the “it could be biological in origin” boat.

    I’ve sunk in the deepest scepticism now, it’ll take nothing short of a living sample to interest me. All this wishfull thinking is boring me.

    • strokerengine says:

      Re: desensitized curmodgeon

      Well, since someone at NASA keeps saying stuff to that effect every few month, I don’t even bother reading the articles in depth anymore. Sheesh, ever tiny deviation in gasses or rock morphology, they jump on the “it could be biological in origin” boat.

      I’ve sunk in the deepest scepticism now, it’ll take nothing short of a living sample to interest me. All this wishfull thinking is boring me.

      Food for thought. By John Nijssen.

      I realize this is not a popular idea, but life anywhere else in the universe is impossible.
      Yeah I know they still teach evolution in school, and people believe RUFOs are aliens visiting from other planets, but this is all just wishful thinking. I suspect most of the careful thinking scientist at NASA also recognize the impossibility of finding alien life, but say nothing because the idea of looking for such life keeps money rolling into their programs.

      They may eventually find signs of life on Mars and this will really generate enthusiasm to continue funding, but if the truth finally comes out it will be that this alien life originally came from a early earth.

      People are getting exited about finding H2O on other planets and moons like that means there will be life, but that is just one of the requirements. The current number of requirements to support life, let alone allow life to get started is 140. Here are just a few require to have a suitable planet.

      Galaxy size, type and location; danger of deadly impact, yet enough to bring heavy elements, iron calcium etc. Sufficient gas to form stars, appropriate radiation levels, gravitation balance, Supernovae eruptions, White dwarf binary stars, timing of solar nebula formation, number of stars in parent star birth aggregate, birth period relative to time from big bang to form potassium-40, thorium-232, uranium-235, and 238, in balance to iron.
      Location of parent star from galaxy center, x,y,z axis. Number of planets in solar system,
      gravity effects including protection of gas giants. Color of star. Age of star. Size of star.
      Diameter of planet.Tilt of planet. Age of planet. Thickness of crust and atmosphere. Rotation period.
      Oxygen to nitrogen ratio. Carbon dioxide level. Water level in atmosphere. Ozone levels. Interior heat loss, seismic and volcanic activity. Ocean to land ratio. Ice age events. Moon size, location, orbit etc. Soil formation and content. Higher life forms, vegetation, bugs on up, all must be in balance to support life, but now we are getting away from just the minimal requirements.

      Studies reveal that the number of stars in the entire universe with planets is one tenth of one percent. If each of those stars had ten planets that would be one hundred million trillion.
      Of those only the ones that can support carbon base life are worth numbering (carbon being the only sustainable life form, silicone life can’t live very long).

      When all of the current known factors are calculated into the known formation of the observable universe, the probability of finding a planet like Earth is about 1 chance in 10 to the power 175 which is 1 followed by 175 zeros. The maximum number of planets in the universe is 10 to the power 22. Number of protons and neutrons, 10-79.
      That means the Earth should not even exist.

      Even if a second planet like Earth existed, the likelihood of natural evolution is impossible.
      Evolution on Earth is impossible, there just isn’t enough time.
      So why is there life on Earth? The only rational explanation is controlled design and execution.
      A power outside the universe had to have built it. The Earth was stuck by another large object, a small planet which provide additional minerals and formed a perfect moon at the perfect time.
      The odds of this happening is for near zero.
      From our perspective being subject to a universe founded on the laws of physic, the universe had to have been built by supernatural power.
      While many reject the notion of God, there is to date no other rational explanation.
      Even if this power is not the God we have heard of, in relation to ourselves this build would be a God.

      So if life does exist outside of earth, the question is to what purpose?
      The bottom line seems to be to appreciate that the Earth is so full of life and that we can study it.
      I’m all for space exploration, but to the extent of furthering our understanding of what does exist, and the expansion of our capabilities through technological advancement.

      I personally feel it is a tragedy that the up keep of Hubble Space Telescope is to be abandoned.
      We can not travel beyond our solar system, even human travel beyond Mars is likely a technological
      impossibility, but machine travel and looking deep into space is within our means.
      If we are to look to the stars, we need the most advance “eye in the sky” we can build.

      • y42 says:

        Re: desensitized curmodgeon

        the universe had to have been built by supernatural power. While many reject the notion of God, there is to date no other rational explanation.

        1. Start believing in “preview” buttons and paragraphs.
        2. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

        By definition, belief in supernatural explanations is irrational.

        I do wish you people would stop spamming every board on the net with your nonsense. Spare us your uninformed ravings, that would be the charitable thing to do.

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