Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Discussion – The Griffin Incident
SNW leans hard into horror this week when La’an, Spock, and Jim Kirk find the long-lost ship, The Griffin.
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A couple of notes.
This was Star Trek: Event Horizon. Not a bad move, since Event Horizon is a great horror flick (RIP, Sam Neill). It’s a gory episode. I don’t mind gore, but I don’t know if it’s appropriate in the mainline Star Trek series (it should be aimed at Middle School and up). Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy this way.
I’m sure the open-endedness of this one will piss off some fans. I’m OK with it, but Trek is about exploration and answers. So as long as these are few and far between that’s fine (who knows it may come back later this season or next).
La’an’s line about David’s fate was COLD, since we know that’s exactly how he dies.
I don’t know if Jim was waiting for the call to connect of if Carol was not answering. I suspect it was the latter and that also felt cold. But, we know where the relationship (with both Carol and David) end up, so this isn’t going to have a happy ending.
Also, since when was Kirk a boy scout? I remember a comment stating quite the opposite.
The open endedness is probably an homage to the horror genre.
He feels like the kid that would totally get his Eagle Scout quickly and easily. Think about it. His (effectively) single mom with two rambunctious, intelligent boys in rural Iowa? Boy Scouts is a great solution.
He might have said something to that effect as in, “I’m not a good boy”.
Clarification: They are no longer “Boy Scouts” but merely “Scouts” after allowing all kids into the program.
I remember now! It was Carol that says it in TWoK.
“Jim Kirk was many things, but he was never a Boy Scout”
Could just be she didn’t know the man very well.
More likely just a minor continuity goof, but maybe not impossible to reconcile if you take the TWoK line as being used a figure of speech. He could have been a boy scout in his youth but, in Carol’s eyes at that moment, lacked the positive traits one usually associates with members of the organisation in that kind of verbal context.
True. In the context of TWoK, they mean Boy Scout in a “goodie two-shoes” which he very much was not.
As a former Scout, I can say very few of us were that stereotype. Boys + Limited Supervision + Outdoors + Fire. You do the math.
A couple of notes.
This was Star Trek: Event Horizon. Not a bad move, since Event Horizon is a great horror flick (RIP, Sam Neill). It’s a gory episode. I don’t mind gore, but I don’t know if it’s appropriate in the mainline Star Trek series (it should be aimed at Middle School and up). Maybe I’m an old fuddy-duddy this way.
I’m sure the open-endedness of this one will piss off some fans. I’m OK with it, but Trek is about exploration and answers. So as long as these are few and far between that’s fine (who knows it may come back later this season or next).
La’an’s line about David’s fate was COLD, since we know that’s exactly how he dies.
I don’t know if Jim was waiting for the call to connect of if Carol was not answering. I suspect it was the latter and that also felt cold. But, we know where the relationship (with both Carol and David) end up, so this isn’t going to have a happy ending.
Also, since when was Kirk a boy scout? I remember a comment stating quite the opposite.
The open endedness is probably an homage to the horror genre.
He feels like the kid that would totally get his Eagle Scout quickly and easily. Think about it. His (effectively) single mom with two rambunctious, intelligent boys in rural Iowa? Boy Scouts is a great solution.
He might have said something to that effect as in, “I’m not a good boy”.
Clarification: They are no longer “Boy Scouts” but merely “Scouts” after allowing all kids into the program.
I remember now! It was Carol that says it in TWoK.
“Jim Kirk was many things, but he was never a Boy Scout”
Could just be she didn’t know the man very well.
More likely just a minor continuity goof, but maybe not impossible to reconcile if you take the TWoK line as being used a figure of speech. He could have been a boy scout in his youth but, in Carol’s eyes at that moment, lacked the positive traits one usually associates with members of the organisation in that kind of verbal context.
True. In the context of TWoK, they mean Boy Scout in a “goodie two-shoes” which he very much was not.
As a former Scout, I can say very few of us were that stereotype. Boys + Limited Supervision + Outdoors + Fire. You do the math.