Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: “Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point”
Revelations and new mysteries.
6 replies on “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: “Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point””
Thoughts It’s possible that the future hot chick (forgot her name) and Riley aren’t just working together, but are bot even more futuristic terminators sent back…
And the show is pointing at exactly what I was suspecting: Cameron’s mission isn’t to kill John Conner, but to befriend him and subvert him, making him more sympathetic to the machines.
own direction I really enjoy that the show is starting to stand on its own to make its own mythos, separate from the movies. On the one hand, we have seen that "present" actions do alter the future. Future Derek was tortured, but not the present version of future Derek, because of some change that had been made after present Derek came back. (I try not to think about it too much.)
We have the increasingly slutty Cameron working on John. I assume future Cameron convinces future John to send the Cameron model back in the first place.
There is growing dissent among the future humans, and also, possibly, among the future metal (Weaver still seems like a rogue agent to me). Jessie and Riley have come back as part of the dissident faction, to attempt to counter or remove the Cameron influence. I’m not sure what they plan to do with this storyline; it seems there are enough problems in the present, namely the basement list and Zeira Corp.
And, finally, it looks like the stress is getting to Sarah. It was a shame to see Dr. Sherman leave so soon. I thought he might be a nice outlet for Sarah. But, maybe the writers think she’ll be more interesting to watch fall apart.
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I really enjoy that the show is starting to stand on its own to make its own mythos, separate from the movies.
Me too. Combined with this show’s willingness to experiment in visual and narrative styles, I find it to be surprisingly enjoyable on a regular basis.
As for Cameron, I’m still convinced she’s a real terminator, not a temptress/seductress model, but they’ve managed to give her a back story and enough humanity to make her a compelling watch.
I’m not really fond of Riley, but I am happy to see the actress who plays Jessie with a role on television. She did such a great job as Kendra Shaw on Razor.
There’s a lot more depth to this series than I expected, and the revelation of future factions is very promising.
-Joe
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We have the increasingly slutty Cameron working on John. I assume future Cameron convinces future John to send the Cameron model back in the first place.
The Cameron thing is something I’m currently having a problem with, but not for the reason you do.
We know that Cameron is a copy of a real living person, who had a relationship with John. That’s why they copied her, so he’d be more likely to slip up. So, did Skynet create an entire model line of her, with multiple copies, or is she a one off? It doesn’t really make a lot of sense if there’s more than one version of her, it would be too easy for the humans to find the copy before she’s in place to assassinate John. But, if she’s the only copy, and was sent back in time to young John, how is she still influencing him in the future enough that Jesse and apparently Riley were sent back?
If she’s survived into the future beside John for the last 20 years, wouldn’t someone have noticed Allison from Palmdale looks a lot like that terminator that hangs out with John Conner?
And, finally, it looks like the stress is getting to Sarah. It was a shame to see Dr. Sherman leave so soon. I thought he might be a nice outlet for Sarah. But, maybe the writers think she’ll be more interesting to watch fall apart.
Actually, with Dr. Sherman gone, and apparently agent Ellison moving in to teach John Henry morals, it could get pretty interesting. Humans don’t do too great interpreting biblical morality, what’s a machine going to make of it all? I see Terminators heading to everyone who’s ever downloaded porn :)
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If she’s survived into the future beside John for the last 20 years, wouldn’t someone have noticed Allison from Palmdale looks a lot like that terminator that hangs out with John Conner?
Cameron came back from Future A.
Derek came back from Future B. B might equal A.
Jessie and Riley come from Future C, where Cameron is still around. C!=A, C!=B
So maybe in C, people do notice Cameron and Allison from Palmdale. Or maybe Allison from Palmdale is dead in C. Maybe the Terminators don’t even create a Cameron in C.
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Humans don’t do too great interpreting biblical morality, what’s a machine going to make of it all?
Nor do super-genius, brainwashed, future soldier girls serving in a pre-Terminator capacity. "Bible’s broken. Contradictions, false logistics… doesn’t make sense…. So we’ll integrate non-progressional evolution theory with God’s creation of Eden. Eleven inherent metaphoric parallels already there. Eleven. Important number. Prime number. One goes into the house of eleven eleven times, but always comes out one. Noah’s ark is a problem…."
Thoughts
It’s possible that the future hot chick (forgot her name) and Riley aren’t just working together, but are bot even more futuristic terminators sent back…
And the show is pointing at exactly what I was suspecting: Cameron’s mission isn’t to kill John Conner, but to befriend him and subvert him, making him more sympathetic to the machines.
own direction
I really enjoy that the show is starting to stand on its own to make its own mythos, separate from the movies. On the one hand, we have seen that "present" actions do alter the future. Future Derek was tortured, but not the present version of future Derek, because of some change that had been made after present Derek came back. (I try not to think about it too much.)
We have the increasingly slutty Cameron working on John. I assume future Cameron convinces future John to send the Cameron model back in the first place.
There is growing dissent among the future humans, and also, possibly, among the future metal (Weaver still seems like a rogue agent to me). Jessie and Riley have come back as part of the dissident faction, to attempt to counter or remove the Cameron influence. I’m not sure what they plan to do with this storyline; it seems there are enough problems in the present, namely the basement list and Zeira Corp.
And, finally, it looks like the stress is getting to Sarah. It was a shame to see Dr. Sherman leave so soon. I thought he might be a nice outlet for Sarah. But, maybe the writers think she’ll be more interesting to watch fall apart.
Re: own direction
Me too. Combined with this show’s willingness to experiment in visual and narrative styles, I find it to be surprisingly enjoyable on a regular basis.
As for Cameron, I’m still convinced she’s a real terminator, not a temptress/seductress model, but they’ve managed to give her a back story and enough humanity to make her a compelling watch.
I’m not really fond of Riley, but I am happy to see the actress who plays Jessie with a role on television. She did such a great job as Kendra Shaw on Razor.
There’s a lot more depth to this series than I expected, and the revelation of future factions is very promising.
-Joe
Re: own direction
The Cameron thing is something I’m currently having a problem with, but not for the reason you do.
We know that Cameron is a copy of a real living person, who had a relationship with John. That’s why they copied her, so he’d be more likely to slip up. So, did Skynet create an entire model line of her, with multiple copies, or is she a one off? It doesn’t really make a lot of sense if there’s more than one version of her, it would be too easy for the humans to find the copy before she’s in place to assassinate John. But, if she’s the only copy, and was sent back in time to young John, how is she still influencing him in the future enough that Jesse and apparently Riley were sent back?
If she’s survived into the future beside John for the last 20 years, wouldn’t someone have noticed Allison from Palmdale looks a lot like that terminator that hangs out with John Conner?
Actually, with Dr. Sherman gone, and apparently agent Ellison moving in to teach John Henry morals, it could get pretty interesting. Humans don’t do too great interpreting biblical morality, what’s a machine going to make of it all? I see Terminators heading to everyone who’s ever downloaded porn :)
Re: own direction
Cameron came back from Future A.
Derek came back from Future B. B might equal A.
Jessie and Riley come from Future C, where Cameron is still around. C!=A, C!=B
So maybe in C, people do notice Cameron and Allison from Palmdale. Or maybe Allison from Palmdale is dead in C. Maybe the Terminators don’t even create a Cameron in C.
Re: own direction
Nor do super-genius, brainwashed, future soldier girls serving in a pre-Terminator capacity. "Bible’s broken. Contradictions, false logistics… doesn’t make sense…. So we’ll integrate non-progressional evolution theory with God’s creation of Eden. Eleven inherent metaphoric parallels already there. Eleven. Important number. Prime number. One goes into the house of eleven eleven times, but always comes out one. Noah’s ark is a problem…."
full scene at http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)
The future equivalent of losing your virginity in a slasher flick.